How do you even tell people really personal stuff when you were bullied for years? And now we have that conflict, that seemingly takes forever, and you’re always asking yourself: “Why aren’t they talking to each other?” But it’s only in real time that you realize how hurtful this conflict is. That Ava could be prevented to outright say what’s bothering her, because we’re talking about a really serious trauma of exclusion. But we are also aware that more can be done. It was helpful and needed that Black perspectives were present also behind the camera – Sara as a director, but also in the social media team, make-up department or costume design. This way you don’t appropriate the stories of others and also don’t tell inauthentic stories or, in the worst case, use hurtful clichés/stereotypes. I think now it should be the only way to produce movies and shows this way, with an intensive research phase. On top of that, we did a lot of research on different topics. We were lucky to have the brilliant author and anti-racism trainer Arpana Berndt, who advised us on these topics. They were always present for feedback loops and made all of us, crew, actors and actresses, participate in an anti-racism workshop. They are big advocates for queer BIPoc representation in German media. It was an important first step, that the Jünglinge collective joined. Jasmina: I think we all have blind spots and that it’s absolutely impossible to end up with a perfect result.
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